Я аплодирую стоя австралийскому премьеру! хочется спросить остальной мир - а вам слабо? Опции

себе проставь!

Извечная тема..Када пациент считает себя умнее чем дохтор.

дураку не докажеш што он дурук потомушто он дурак-а вот кому из нас это больше подходит-вопрос.
про двух БАРАНОВ на бревне через речку -надеюсь слышал так вот второй баран это не Я.
уступаю дорогу далее но камент!

Сообщение отредактировал STEROID - 10.08.10 - 17:21

Есть русская пословица..На воре шапка горит...Не слышал?

Это было им сказано достаточно давно после того как в одной из мечетей нашли ВУ....

Это было им сказано достаточно давно после того как в одной из мечетей нашли ВУ....

Это вам на оперативке рассказали ? (плачет)

Есть русская пословица..На воре шапка горит...Не слышал?

Кепка ?

Баран.

И не лень вам... из-за мифического австралийского "премьера"...

Сообщение отредактировал AAA - 10.08.10 - 21:04

А тебе?

И мне...

Иногда лучше жевать, чем говорить (с)

А вот и "фейковая" речь для россиянских интернет-хомячков:

MIGRANTS are obliged to "be Australian" and social integration must be pushed harder, John Howard has declared.

In an interview marking his 10th anniversary as Prime Minister, Mr Howard also describes the burqa, the full head covering worn by some Muslim women, as "confronting".

Mr Howard yesterday defended as "fundamentally accurate" a controversial speech by his Treasurer, Peter Costello, on core Australian values.

But Mr Howard's interview with the Herald, conducted before the Costello speech, confirmed that the two men are singing from the same song sheet in expressing trepidation about a divide between some Muslims and mainstream Australia.

It also illustrates the futility of some Muslim leaders appealing to Mr Howard yesterday to censure Mr Costello for the speech on Thursday.

Mr Howard told the Herald, "when you come to this country, you become Australian". Similarly, Mr Costello had said: "Before becoming an Australian, you will be asked to subscribe to certain values. If you have strong objections to those values, don't come to Australia."

In the interview, Mr Howard said multiculturalism had become distorted and too often stupidly meant "a federation of cultures". And he said Muslims must work at avoiding their alienation. Mr Costello condemned "confused, mushy, misguided multiculturalism".

Initially, the Costello comments - including stripping citizenship from people who advocate Islamic law over Australian law - were judged to be at odds with Mr Howard. On the same day, Mr Howard had spoken of the contribution of "all of those who weren't born in this country" and extolled Australia as the least discriminatory country. In the interview, however, Mr Howard said integration was underdone, even though Australia was "very socially cohesive". Yesterday Mr Howard said Australia's core set of values flowed from its Anglo-Saxon identity and the Treasurer's essential point - that people should not migrate to countries they do not appreciate - was unexceptional.

Mr Howard said Australian Muslims overhwelmingly were committed to Australia, and terrorism was based "upon an evil, distorted interpretation of Islam … But that doesn't mean you can't identify areas of concern, and I think the reaction of some in the Islamic community … is quite unreasonable."

Costello backers said his remarks were intended to brand him as conservative enough for a legitimate shot at the Liberal leadership. Yesterday Mr Costello continued to promote the cause for a more demanding citizenship test. On Sydney radio he brushed aside the leadership question when asked if he was positioning himself by making remarks that some would consider to be racist.

Despite a chorus of protest at the Costello speech, NSW's Labor Premier, Morris Iemma, called it reasonable and practical and said immigrants should "leave the disputes, leave the extremism and leave the fights behind". This endorsement is a sure sign that Labor polling identifies the Muslim divide as a potent electoral issue.

Pauline Hanson, the former One Nation leader, said she was vindicated by Mr Costello. She added that "he needs to throw these people out of this country who do not embrace Australia".

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/live-h...0670269194.html

Вы чего, слепые что ли??
НИКТО и НИКОГДА в Австралии НЕ ГОВОРИЛ такую речь. Вас разводят с 2005 года, первого вброса этой ахинеи в Интернет.
Хотя если хомячкам нравится быть одураченными - вольному воля.

объясни смысл вброса ахинеи? не понимаю я чото...

Это было им сказано достаточно давно после того как в одной из мечетей нашли ВУ....

Это вам на оперативке рассказали ? (плачет)

Это ещё в 09-м году было и рассказал нам об Этом ТЫРНЕТ ( слёзы-сопли подотри )

Сообщение отредактировал Dimonstr - 10.08.10 - 23:12

Иногда лучше жевать, чем говорить (с)

Золотые слова, Юрий Венедиктович! Поэтому если уж что-то говорю(пишу), то только после ЛИЧНОЙ проверки, а не копипастом с бабкиных слов или ТЫРНЕТА.
Итак, поехали.

1. Для начала закроем вопрос с "речью".

А вот и "фейковая" речь для россиянских интернет-хомячков:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/live-h...0670269194.html

И чего мы там видим? Никакой "речи" Говарда от первого лица нет в помине, есть журнальная статья от имени автора-журналиста, где он рассказывает, что когда-то говорили Говард и его казначей (министр финансов что ли?) Costello (тогда преемник Говарда, но как мы уже знаем, его сменил Радд) по вопросам мультикультурализма, интеграции Муслимов (ну т.е. ситизенов, исповедующих ислам ) и организации контроля за деятельностью исламистских землячеств на территории Аустралии. Все это по следам недавнего очередного теракта на Бали. Выражения приведены довольно смелые, но не выходящие на скандальный уровень, ибо это все же политики высокого госранга. Хотя некоторые из высказываний в фальшивку попадут.
Я, кстати, совсем не силен в английском, просто Гугл-переводчик доступен всем.

2. Разберемся с темой сего топика - "речью" нонешнего премьер-министра Кевина Радда, которую повторить остальному миру, безусловно, слабо.
Недолгий серф привел на первоисточник:

Источник - юмористический блог, что явно видно по карикатурам Обамы.
Дата 1 апреля всем видна ?
Ну и в первой строке - аустралийский ПМ сделал это снова! Что значит "снова"?? Он повторяет речь своего предшественника слово в слово, ни разу не ссылаясь на него? Или в уста нового ПМ "снова" вложили те же слова, что мир обсосал уже четыре года назад?
С Раддом закончили, интересно проследить, откуда появилась сама фальшивка.

3. Вообще большинство пишет, что "речь" им приходила по e-mail. В инете тоже есть текст.
Вот он, наконец-то!:
Prime Minister Howard - Muslims Out Of Australia.

Содержание:

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American and Canadian citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.

If you agree ... please SEND THIS ON.

Речь пылкая, но увы - никто и никогда её не произносил целиком. Это микс из цитат , надерганных от разных людей (как минимум, четырех) и вырванных из контекста. Подробно это расписано здесь: MIXTURE OF CORRECT AND INCORRECT ATTRIBUTIONS ("Смесь корректных и некорректных цитат"). Читайте с переводчиком.
Основа текста - патриотическая речь американского ветерана ВВС Barry Loudermilk на каком-то мероприятии в 2001 году!, сразу после терактов 9/11, которого достал прогрессирующий идиотизм политкорректностей и он, не особо стесняясь, выдал то, что потом растиражируется как текст "This is America. Like It or leave It" ("Это Америка. Любите её или покиньте".)
Ссылка. Сам текст:

Содержание:

At a high school in Oklahoma, school officials remove “God Bless America” signs from schools in fear that someone might be offended.
At a Long Island, New York television station, management orders flags removed from the newsroom, and red, white, and blue ribbons removed from the lapels of reporters. Why? Management did not want to appear biased, and felt that our nation’s flag might give the appearance that “they lean one way or another.”
Officials in a California city ban U.S. flags from being displayed on city fire trucks because they didn’t want to offend anyone in the community.
In an “act of tolerance,”
the head of the public library at a Florida university ordered all “Proud To Be an American” signs removed so as to not offend international students.

Politically Correct Attacks Against America
I, for one, am quite disturbed by these actions of so-called “American citizens”; and I am tired of this nation worrying about whether or not we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on September 11th, we have experienced a surge of patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled in New York and Washington, DC when the “politically correct” crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.
I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. In fact, our country’s population is almost entirely comprised of descendants of immigrants; however, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some native-born Americans, need to understand.

If You’re Among the Politically Correct, Here’s What You Need to Know
First of all, it is not our responsibility to continually try not to offend you in any way. This idea of America being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language, and our own lifestyle. This culture, called the “American Way” has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. Our forefathers fought, bled, and died at places such as Bunker Hill, Antietam, San Juan Hill, Iwo Jima, Normandy, Korea, Vietnam, and the Persian Gulf, for our way of life.
We speak English, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn our language!

And Yes, We Do Trust in God
“In God We Trust” is our national motto. This is not some off-the-wall, Christian, right wing, political slogan. It is our national motto. It is engraved in stone in the House of Representatives in our Capitol, and it is printed on our currency. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation; and this is clearly documented throughout our history. If it is appropriate for our motto to be inscribed in the halls of our highest level of government, then it is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.

If God Offends You, Here’s What to Do
God is in our pledge, our National Anthem, nearly every patriotic song, and in our founding documents. We honor His birth, death, and resurrection as holidays, and we turn to Him in prayer in times of crisis. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture, and we are proud to have Him.

It’s Our Heritage
We are proud of our heritage and those who have so honorably defended our freedoms. We celebrate Independence Day, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Flag Day. We have parades, picnics, and barbecues where we proudly wave our flag. As an American, I have the right to wave my flag, sing my national anthem, quote my national motto, and cite my pledge whenever and wherever I choose. If the Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don’t like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

This is Our Culture – If You Don’t Like It You’re Free to Go Elsewhere
The American culture is our way of life, our heritage, and we are proud of it. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from. We are Americans. Like it or not, this is our country, our land, and our lifestyle.
Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion about our government, culture, or society, and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great American freedom, the right to leave!

Вот самое интересное - сравнивать куски текста (можете сами, тексты я привел):

Говард: "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!"
Loudermilk: "We speak English, not Spanish, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn our language!"

Говард: "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.'"
Loudermilk:"This culture, called the “American Way” has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom."

Говард: "'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."
Loudermilk: "In God We Trust” is our national motto. This is not some off-the-wall, Christian, right wing, political slogan. It is our national motto. It is engraved in stone in the House of Representatives in our Capitol, and it is printed on our currency. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation; and this is clearly documented throughout our history."

Loudermilk: "But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE' ".
Лаудмилк: "But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other great American freedom, the right to leave!"


Ну и для правдоподобности, в нужных местах вставлены РЕАЛЬНЫЕ, но выдернутые из контекста цитаты австралийских политиков по этой теме.

ИМХО, что "речь" - фуфел, микс и т.д. это одно, а то какая реакция окружающих - это другое.
Вообщем, можно закрывать флейм.

Как грица - мир, дружба, жувачка ............

ИМХО, что "речь" - фуфел, микс и т.д. это одно, а то какая реакция окружающих - это другое.
Вообщем, можно закрывать флейм.

Как грица - мир, дружба, жувачка ............

Лужков распорядился транслировать мусульманские молитвы через звукоусилители

Кроме того, как следует из распоряжения, на период проведения упомянутых мусульманских праздников будут внесены соответствующие изменения в маршруты и графики движения наземного общественного транспорта.

Кроме того, мэр распорядился принять меры по исключению из продажи алкогольной продукции, слабоалкогольных напитков, а также прохладительных напитков в стеклянной таре

Лужков распорядился транслировать мусульманские молитвы через звукоусилители

Кроме того, как следует из распоряжения, на период проведения упомянутых мусульманских праздников будут внесены соответствующие изменения в маршруты и графики движения наземного общественного транспорта.

Кроме того, мэр распорядился принять меры по исключению из продажи алкогольной продукции, слабоалкогольных напитков, а также прохладительных напитков в стеклянной таре

Вот проститутка!

Скока берет за час?

РФ уже очень давно многонациональное гос-во, у нас такое не прокатит) Т.к. все татары, буряты, ненцы и прочие вряд ли считают себя русскими. Но все мы росияНЕ. Прикиньте так у нас заявить

а ты знаешь как там себя русские щас чувствуют?!!! у моих родитлей друзья всю жизнь прожили в Уфе - год назад пришлось переехать в Ебург...
делайте выводы. жаль их после ига всех не вытурили куда подальше

(уж извините если кого зацепил - но вот "там" они у себя в своих "республиках с русскими не церемоняца" - так какого ..... мы должны?!)